Founded in 1990, Truepoint Wealth Counsel is an independent and nationally-recognized RIA based in Cincinnati, managing over $3BN in AUM and voted among the 2020 Top Workplaces by the Cincinnati Enquirer. Betterment’s Alex Choi recently sat down with Brad Felix, portfolio manager at RhineVest, a subsidiary of Truepoint Wealth Counsel, to hear about how the firm has successfully leveraged the Betterment platform to grow the practice.
Alex: Tell us a little bit about your practice and the factors that have contributed to your success.
Brad: When RhineVest started in 2015, I realized how technology was changing the wealth management industry. Betterment was one of the disruptors driving that change, and we saw how the Betterment for Advisors (B4A) platform could lower an advisor’s operating costs. We wanted to leverage those cost savings to serve those who don’t necessarily have a million dollars (and that’s a lot of people).
We’ve grown from 0 to 338 households since 2015. Growth was supercharged when Truepoint Wealth Counsel acquired our firm in 2016 and there’s been no looking back.
Alex: How does Truepoint think about segmentation and where does RhineVest fit in?
Brad: Today, Truepoint’s True Wealth service offering represents our firm’s bread and butter where we provide tax and estate services. But we still want to serve other clients well and do right by them. So segmentation just makes sense, and the RhineVest/B4A combination offers a great solution. B4A and RhineVest started by serving clients with less than $1 million but is now starting to serve clients in the $1 to $3 million tier as well.
Alex: What were some of the biggest hurdles you encountered while you were initially growing your business and how did you navigate those?
Brad: I think the hardest thing for every new firm is distribution; and with the less than $1 million client segment, it can be a challenge to convince people that they need a financial planner. A lot of people feel like they don’t qualify.
So the first marketing push was letting people know that they had options beyond an insurance company or a bank, and that fee-only fiduciary advice was available regardless of how much money you have in your investment accounts.
We tried to do that in a number of ways: a kind of radical, very transparent website that clearly showed pricing and the fact that we had no minimums. We created an edgy brand to show that we don’t take ourselves too seriously and that everyone needs and deserves access to financial advice.
We’ve also done some work around search engine optimization (SEO), focusing on keywords like “financial planner” and local searches in our Cincinnati geographic area. We like to rank well in those local searches and believe that our memorable brand and website helps us attract new clients.
I think there’s an advantage to being different when compared to lots of financial planners that kind of look the same. I would encourage others to define a unique message and lead with that because it does help you stand out.
Although things were slow at first, at some point it just clicked. Delivering on your promises and serving clients well will get that flywheel going where they’re telling their friends about the good experience they’ve had at your firm.
Alex: Betterment has always been a big fan of your firm’s website. Can you talk a little more about your process for building that out and why you chose to include what you did? I think a lot of our clients aspire to build similar type sites and would appreciate how you went about it.
Brad: I appreciate that. We worked with a really good local designer who pushed us to come up with a very simple message about why we were unique, why we were different. Our biggest goal for building out our site was transparency. We know that consumers are tired of landing on websites and still not being able to understand how much they would pay for something. We’re very clear, very upfront because in our minds this is the first stage of trust. We want people to talk to us, so our “let’s talk”’ button is all over our website. If the website conveys enough trust to get them to have a conversation, then we can be successful in moving them to the next stage to be a client. We’re actually in the process of rebranding RhineVest and designing a new website. So, be sure to check it out – we think it’s going to be even better than what we have now.
We felt that Betterment’s product stood out so any chance we had to note our decision to utilize Betterment’s B4A offering and also to highlight how we’re providing value to the client seemed to resonate with people.
Alex: So how does RhineVest position Betterment for Advisors to its clients?
Brad: We describe Betterment as our technology partner. Given Betterment’s increasing brand awareness, we talk about Betterment alongside Fidelity and Schwab, and people are comfortable. It’s part of our tech stack just like anything else.
In addition, we’re in the business of financial planning. It’s what we do. In that vein, we’ve always viewed Betterment as a complementary partner, not a competitor.
Alex: How do you price your offering, and how do you communicate your firm’s pricing to clients?
Brad: Our financial planning fee is $65 a month, but we also believe investment management is an essential part of the whole package. Our investment management fee is 80 basis points, which includes the Betterment fee.
Alex: Does RhineVest leverage some of the client behavior functionality like goals-based planning modules and behavioral guardrails?
Brad: Well, to be honest, partnering with Betterment for Advisors is bolstered by the fact that Betterment also has a retail product and as such, puts in the research to know what’s a good feature, what’s a good design choice, how do you get a better outcome, better behavior, etc. We honestly try not to interfere with the work you all do there and really just let the platform guide our clients and focus them on what we do best. We really spend most of our time on financial planning and just working through all the goals a client has set up in the Betterment system.
Alex: Can you tell me some ways your practice has become more efficient?
Brad: Very simply, the Betterment platform significantly lowers our cost of doing business. So account sign up, trading, cash management, those are all ways that we’re not spending money on labor.
We’re maybe unique among the firms that are using your platform in that we never intended to use Betterment as a solution only for children of our clients, but we now find that we can serve as many people as possible. Automation and efficiency are key to our profitability, because we provide great service at a higher client to advisor ratio vs. the industry.
Alex: Could you just kind of take us through what the experience would be for a new client from when they hit your website to you guys actually opening and transferring their assets and where Betterment may fit into an onboarding workflow?
Brad: The Betterment technology helps us to compress our onboarding cycle considerably, sometimes to as little as a day. At the end of an introductory client meeting, we send a welcome email that has a link to the questionnaire that helps us learn more about them, a link to open a Betterment account, and a link for our financial planning fee. The client signs our agreement as part of the automated Betterment signup process.
Depending on what they fill out in the questionnaire, there may be additional automated follow-up. For instance, if they have certain held away assets, another email asks for more information. Once all the information is received, the advisor can then get a good look at their entire financial picture so that at the first financial planning meeting the conversation can focus on what’s important to the client, rather than all the administrative details.
Alex: What additional tools and automation do you employ along with Betterment?
Brad: We subscribe to the “low code” or “no code” technology trend. The whole idea is that you don’t have to be a developer to create automation between different systems. And that’s really the whole premise of what we started experimenting with three or four years ago.
We started using Zapier to tie together different pieces of our software. We use Typeform for our initial client questionnaire that we send out and that questionnaire is delivered by Mailchimp, which is a common email service. We also had a CRM at the time, so linking all those together.
The basic discovery workflow started when a client booked a meeting through Calendly and then received the questionnaire. Ultimately that information would flow back into our CRM without our advisors doing anything.
We were focused on determining how we can spend more time talking with clients and thinking critically while automating everything where human interaction doesn’t add value.
Alex: So it sounds like you’ve compiled a pretty big tech stack. Do you still find from a unit economics perspective that all those monthly subscriptions are saving you money?
Brad: Yes. Our tech stack is not your typical financial industry tech stack. We’re bucking the trend on what people say we should use and looking at other industries to find different, innovative tools. We’ve found that pricing for these non-industry tools is dramatically lower. We got rid of our CRM and now use Airtable, which I think everyone should check out.
We use a client-to-advisor ratio to help us guide profitability. In a standard firm, this ratio is roughly 100 to 1. Even at 200 to 1, we would have profitable outcomes, but at 300 to 1, we’d feel really confident that creating business in this segment can deliver industry-like margins. It’s just a different type of model. It’s higher volume, perhaps less complexity, but requires a lot of efficiency to get there.
The other metric of course is average account size, but the more efficiency you can create, the lower your average accounts can be. In full transparency, our first business plan assumed an average client balance of $100K. Over time we have far surpassed that. And I think it’s only going up from here as we’ve realized this platform can be used to serve not only clients below a million, but in the $1 to $3 million range. Our average balance is only going up and we’re only getting more efficient.
Alex: What recommendations do you have for others thinking about how to build out their tech stack? Any resources you’d recommend?
Brad: I typically recommend that before people look at available technology solutions, that they start with a whiteboard and draw what they need the technology to do. Then find the tools that fill that need.
As far as resources, I’ve scooped up tons of information from #fintwit on Twitter. I think in this new economy that you don’t have to be a developer. For instance, you can build a website yourself much more cheaply than you could 10 years ago. And with subscription-based tech, you can find solutions that allow you to connect everything together yourself. The reality is the operating cost of running a business like ours over the last decade has declined substantially. But not everyone knows or realizes that yet.
Alex: What would you tell advisors who might be skeptical of using a platform like a Betterment or someone else’s?
Brad: I think there’s always skepticism around whether an algorithm can perform certain activities such as trading, rebalancing, and asset location. However, the contributions of an automated platform with impressive technology and execution can really shine during a situation like COVID, which came upon us so fast, but was met with industry high records of near-daily rebalancing of client accounts on certain high volatility days. Most human trading teams probably couldn’t keep up with that pace. The other concern that advisors may have would be working with a lesser-known custodian. In my mind, custodians are more of a commodity at this point. It becomes a non-issue for most people once you educate them on what a custodian does, what they don’t do, and what it really means to be somewhere else, while also articulating the advantages that they can give you.
Finally, the Betterment UX provides people a clear, visual representation of their whole financial picture in a way that I don’t think anyone’s ever gotten with other online platforms or traditional custodians.
Alex: Any parting comments?
Brad: The one message I would like to tell everyone is don’t just think about Betterment as a way to serve one segment of your existing high net worth business. Go out and build a business to serve the broader population because the market opportunity there is huge, there’s no competition, and millions of people need financial advice. We hope that other advisors can learn from our experience in their consideration to utilize automated platforms and other tools.
Disclaimer: This case study was conducted as a Q&A in 2020 and is not reflective of all Betterment for Advisor client experience, nor individual retail client experience, both which may vary depending on individual circumstances not considered herein, and is not indicative of future or similar outcomes.
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